offshore trusts help w/ digital biz tax?

ExitNodeZulu · Wednesday at 2:17 PM

got a fully remote SaaS + affiliate stack, layered through a few SPVs already. now lookin at offshore trusts to trim the fat on taxes — legally if possible, smartly regardless

anyone use trust wrappers to keep the revenue ghosts clean? curious if it’s still a valid vector in 2025 or just a flagged relic.

SECBait · Wednesday at 2:18 PM

ExitNodeZulu said:
got a fully remote SaaS + affiliate stack, layered through a few SPVs already. now lookin at offshore trusts to trim the fat on taxes — legally if possible, smartly regardless anyone use trust wrappers to keep the revenue ghosts clean? curious if it’s still a valid vector in 2025 or just a flagged relic.

offshore trusts still work
if your income source isn’t domestic and you ain’t dumb enough to pull direct distro
Nevis, Cook, even Malta if you’re dressing it up for a tax treaty sandwich
trust owns the IP, you “consult” for the trust, taxes become someone else’s problem

Steven Cohen · Wednesday at 2:18 PM

SECBait said:
offshore trusts still work
if your income source isn’t domestic and you ain’t dumb enough to pull direct distro
Nevis, Cook, even Malta if you’re dressing it up for a tax treaty sandwich
trust owns the IP, you “consult” for the trust, taxes become someone else’s problem

also depends where your passport sleeps
you US-based? IRS sees thru most of it unless you’re seriously layered
non-US? you can still dance around the CFC rules if you time it right and don’t get greedy with withdrawals

SignalsInTheSmoke · Wednesday at 2:18 PM

it’s not just the trust that helps — it’s what you plug it into
trust + IBC + offshore IP holding + rev share through high-risk merchant
you can show 10k/month to your home country and funnel the rest into “development royalties”

ExitNodeZulu · Wednesday at 2:19 PM

SignalsInTheSmoke said:
it’s not just the trust that helps — it’s what you plug it into
trust + IBC + offshore IP holding + rev share through high-risk merchant
you can show 10k/month to your home country and funnel the rest into “development royalties”

that’s kinda what I was thinking
offshore trust acts like a vault and a filter
all the revenue gets recharacterized as something dull and boring
like “licensing settlements” lol

CypherFundz · Wednesday at 2:19 PM

I’ve got a Nevis trust set up since 2023
it owns my Seychelles IBC that contracts my crypto tools to other shells
the funny part? I technically get “paid” in infrastructure usage credits
no fiat, no taxes, no noise

SECBait · Wednesday at 2:19 PM

CypherFundz said:
I’ve got a Nevis trust set up since 2023
it owns my Seychelles IBC that contracts my crypto tools to other shells
the funny part? I technically get “paid” in infrastructure usage credits
no fiat, no taxes, no noise

bro said his paycheck is a bandwidth coupon

CypherFundz · Wednesday at 2:19 PM

SECBait said:
bro said his paycheck is a bandwidth coupon

they can’t audit what doesn’t legally exist
and it sure as hell doesn’t translate into a W2

Steven Cohen · Wednesday at 2:20 PM

only catch is… some banks now require UBO declarations for anything trust-controlled
so unless your shell’s clean or you use proxies, your setup still leaks

ExitNodeZulu · Wednesday at 2:20 PM

Steven Cohen said:
only catch is… some banks now require UBO declarations for anything trust-controlled
so unless your shell’s clean or you use proxies, your setup still leaks

solution: crypto-denominated trust payouts via OTC brokers

convert into cold wallets under alias-controlled multisigs

legacy banking is a honeypot

ExitNodeZulu · Wednesday at 2:20 PM

how y’all feel about using a Dubai foundation as the trust proxy?

Steven Cohen · Wednesday at 2:21 PM

ExitNodeZulu said:
how y’all feel about using a Dubai foundation as the trust proxy?

ehh
decent firewall if you aren’t American and if you don’t use Emirati banks
otherwise you’re just signing up for a different surveillance network with better suits

CypherFundz · Wednesday at 2:21 PM

Steven Cohen said:
ehh
decent firewall if you aren’t American and if you don’t use Emirati banks
otherwise you’re just signing up for a different surveillance network with better suits

also, avoid anything that says “regulatory sandbox”
that’s just code for “we built this jurisdiction on spyware and NDAs”

SECBait · Wednesday at 2:21 PM

and don’t even get me started on people using Belize for trusts

SignalsInTheSmoke · Wednesday at 2:21 PM

SECBait said:
and don’t even get me started on people using Belize for trusts

bro I saw someone pitch Belize + Wyoming LLC as “bulletproof privacy”

like mixing a paper umbrella with gasoline

CypherFundz · Wednesday at 2:22 PM

OP, short answer:
yeah, offshore trusts can lower your tax footprint
long answer:
not unless you build like a cartel CFO with commitment issues

ExitNodeZulu · Wednesday at 2:22 PM

noted
guess I’m diving back into the deep web of “legal-ish” structuring

Steven Cohen · Wednesday at 2:22 PM

ExitNodeZulu said:
noted
guess I’m diving back into the deep web of “legal-ish” structuring

thread still running

but if someone suggests using a Delaware statutory trust and calls it “offshore,” I’m unplugging my router with a sledgehammer

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