swiss vault vs. bookshelf safe?

[SignalsInTheSmoke]

thinking of flipping some gains into gold but stuck deciding: keep it at home like a lunatic prepped for doomsday, or go offshore with vaults in Switz/Sing. goal is privacy, zero drama, and staying off every damn radar. advice welcome before I build a hidden floor panel.

 

[SECBait]

if you’re thinking about hiding sh*t in the walls, you’re already halfway to a raid

Swiss or Singapore vaults let you store legally and vanish bureaucratically

bonus: fireproof, lawsuit-proof, ex-wife-proof

 

[SignalsInTheSmoke]

if you’re thinking about hiding sh*t in the walls, you’re already halfway to a raid

Swiss or Singapore vaults let you store legally and vanish bureaucratically

bonus: fireproof, lawsuit-proof, ex-wife-proof

lol yeah I don’t trust drywall as a security system anymore

but Swiss vaults feel like they’ll ask for a blood sample

 

[SECBait]

lol yeah I don’t trust drywall as a security system anymore

but Swiss vaults feel like they’ll ask for a blood sample

not if you go private vault, non-bank affiliated
walk in with the right intermediary and a trust wrapper — they’ll barely ask your shoe size

 

[Steven Cohen]

depends how clean you want the paper trail
Switzerland = legacy prestige, but more KYC than they used to Singapore = private vaults still play nice if you come through a layered SPV or trust
both better than explaining to your insurance guy why your “pipes burst” and all your gold’s gone

 

[SignalsInTheSmoke]

depends how clean you want the paper trail
Switzerland = legacy prestige, but more KYC than they used to Singapore = private vaults still play nice if you come through a layered SPV or trust
both better than explaining to your insurance guy why your “pipes burst” and all your gold’s gone

so Singapore over Swiss these days?

 

[Steven Cohen]

so Singapore over Swiss these days?

for discretion? yeah
Singapore’s vault game is sleek + discreet, especially if you’re running it through offshore shells
Switz still flexes but they log everything now

 

[CypherFundz]

home vaults are for cartel accountants or boomers w/ bunker fantasies
you get robbed? no recourse
you get sued? kiss it goodbye
offshore vault w/ bearer cert and trust structure = no name, no claim, no trace

 

[SignalsInTheSmoke]

home vaults are for cartel accountants or boomers w/ bunker fantasies
you get robbed? no recourse
you get sued? kiss it goodbye
offshore vault w/ bearer cert and trust structure = no name, no claim, no trace

damn I was 2 clicks away from ordering a fireproof safe on Amazon

 

[CypherFundz]

damn I was 2 clicks away from ordering a fireproof safe on Amazon

nah bro spend that cash on an SPV and a private box in Singapore that doesn’t even show up in FOIA

 

[ExitNodeZulu]

real play?
own nothing
LLC in NM owns BVI shelf
BVI shelf owns contract with private Singapore vault
vault holds metal
you hold keys
gov shows up? you’re just “consulting for the trust”

 

[SignalsInTheSmoke]

real play?
own nothing
LLC in NM owns BVI shelf
BVI shelf owns contract with private Singapore vault
vault holds metal
you hold keys
gov shows up? you’re just “consulting for the trust”

is there a service that sets this all up or am I stitching this Frankenstein together myself?

 

[ExitNodeZulu]

is there a service that sets this all up or am I stitching this Frankenstein together myself?

you can DIY if you’ve got time and burner IDs
otherwise hit up a boutique formation agent who knows how to keep things “unavailable for comment”

 

[SECBait]

unless you want your vault access code to be “plea deal exhibit B,” I’d say that’s a wise shift

 

[CypherFundz]

just don’t vault in HK or UAE unless you really trust your facilitator
last dude who stored in Dubai? vanished and got invoiced

 

[Steven Cohen]

also make sure it’s non-bank storage

you store gold at a bank and suddenly the asset is “regulated”

you store it at a private facility? now it’s “archival infrastructure”

 

[ExitNodeZulu]

also if you can’t visit the vault without ID, you did it wrong
layer up
sign nothing
use proxies
and for the love of god, don’t list it as “precious metals” on anything

 

[SignalsInTheSmoke]

also if you can’t visit the vault without ID, you did it wrong
layer up
sign nothing
use proxies
and for the love of god, don’t list it as “precious metals” on anything

noted
renaming it “legacy tangible reserves”
booking a flight to Singapore

 

[SECBait]

thread still open but if anyone says “just bury it in your backyard” I’m logging out permanently